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The wording on these is odd. I wouldn't buy ALL of the faction books, but I would definately buy some. One large tome is also an interesting idea.
QUOTE(Pyreos @ Aug 19 2008, 02:50 PM)
The wording on these is odd. I wouldn't buy ALL of the faction books, but I would definately buy some. One large tome is also an interesting idea.
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1. the poll system only allows for 6 options.
2. right now we're looking at 60-page "splat books" for the Faction Books. This really wouldn't translate well into a hardcover since the cover would be thicker than the print. But it's something for us to consider regardless.
I'm not a big fan of hardback books really. Smaller game books see a lot more referencing by me than big hard backs, at least for wargames (not RPGs where you're a little more situated all game...) Actually I'd like to see cheaper options like whole punched pages ready to be inserted into a binder or something. Unfortuneately I think most people view "cheap but useful" as "cheap and not worth getting". Really a half size bunch of pages that I could put in a little binder would make me happy if someone could somehow make it the standard for wargames... Especially nice for inserting errata pages and stuff like that.
I'm all for hardcovers .. I even go to the lengths and get some of my books "re-covered" and rebound (is that the right word for it?) in a copy-shop just to have it in hardcover.
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For practicality, I've cut the binding off my ADT and have spiral-bound it. Why? Because I've already bought it and I use it.
If I were to put together a wish list to redesign RPG Books and Wargame Books, I'd think of how it's used and go from there. Form follows function. Do I put it on a shelf and look fondly at it? Do I cram it in my carrier and lug it around with me? Do I flip through the pages hurriedly looking for one sentence?
There's three things that come to mind: Transportation, Durability, and Economics.
1. Transportation. Rez is nice because we don't have to lug entire armies back and forth. But you do have to lug some mini's around.
The entire reason 8.5x11 is standard is because it's a standard for distribution. Shops shelves are designed to handle that. Because of transportation, I'd like to see a smaller than 8.5x11. Another size, though less common, is a 6x9. Making it easier to put in whatever box/carrier a player uses. Lately, I've been lugging around Shadow War instead of ADT because it fits in my carrier (A plastic Ammo Box).
2. Durability. Rulebooks are a resource guide and an instruction manual. A Textbook, if you will. Because of that, it needs to be able to handle abuse and constant page flipping. Not because it needs it, but because it might need it. That standard is what's call a Perfect Bind. That's the paperback we all have. While cost effective and pretty, it's not the ideal bind for constant wear.
I know that some people are going to jump in here and say that they don't abuse their books and that they have books from the 50's that look as good now as they did back then. That's not the point.
For wear and tear, the most important part of the book is the cover. That's its primary purpose. It needs to be able to take some punishment or what those people from the paragraph above call 'shelf wear'. A hard back or case bound book is made for that wear and tear.
3. Economics and value. Standards cost less. It's that simple. If you want quality, you pay for quality. I've recently decided to reinvest in myself and am going back to college in pursuit of a higher degree. I took a trip to their bookstore. Have you bought college class books before? Thankfully I'm not taking a MIS course. I saw a case bound book for $200. I got off cheap with a flimsy perfect bound book for $38. Interestingly, they say that the cheap book is one you should keep with you for your entire presumed 4 year stay in college. That seems a bit backwards.
So what would be my 'ideal' wargame book? It would be case bound and it would be smaller.
If I were to put together a wish list to redesign RPG Books and Wargame Books, I'd think of how it's used and go from there. Form follows function. Do I put it on a shelf and look fondly at it? Do I cram it in my carrier and lug it around with me? Do I flip through the pages hurriedly looking for one sentence?
There's three things that come to mind: Transportation, Durability, and Economics.
1. Transportation. Rez is nice because we don't have to lug entire armies back and forth. But you do have to lug some mini's around.
The entire reason 8.5x11 is standard is because it's a standard for distribution. Shops shelves are designed to handle that. Because of transportation, I'd like to see a smaller than 8.5x11. Another size, though less common, is a 6x9. Making it easier to put in whatever box/carrier a player uses. Lately, I've been lugging around Shadow War instead of ADT because it fits in my carrier (A plastic Ammo Box).
2. Durability. Rulebooks are a resource guide and an instruction manual. A Textbook, if you will. Because of that, it needs to be able to handle abuse and constant page flipping. Not because it needs it, but because it might need it. That standard is what's call a Perfect Bind. That's the paperback we all have. While cost effective and pretty, it's not the ideal bind for constant wear.
I know that some people are going to jump in here and say that they don't abuse their books and that they have books from the 50's that look as good now as they did back then. That's not the point.
For wear and tear, the most important part of the book is the cover. That's its primary purpose. It needs to be able to take some punishment or what those people from the paragraph above call 'shelf wear'. A hard back or case bound book is made for that wear and tear.
3. Economics and value. Standards cost less. It's that simple. If you want quality, you pay for quality. I've recently decided to reinvest in myself and am going back to college in pursuit of a higher degree. I took a trip to their bookstore. Have you bought college class books before? Thankfully I'm not taking a MIS course. I saw a case bound book for $200. I got off cheap with a flimsy perfect bound book for $38. Interestingly, they say that the cheap book is one you should keep with you for your entire presumed 4 year stay in college. That seems a bit backwards.
So what would be my 'ideal' wargame book? It would be case bound and it would be smaller.
QUOTE(Chris Passeno @ Aug 20 2008, 08:34 AM)
For practicality, I've cut the binding off my ADT and have spiral-bound it. Why? Because I've already bought it and I use it.
If I were to put together a wish list to redesign RPG Books and Wargame Books, I'd think of how it's used and go from there. Form follows function. Do I put it on a shelf and look fondly at it? Do I cram it in my carrier and lug it around with me? Do I flip through the pages hurriedly looking for one sentence?
There's three things that come to mind: Transportation, Durability, and Economics.
1. Transportation. Rez is nice because we don't have to lug entire armies back and forth. But you do have to lug some mini's around.
The entire reason 8.5x11 is standard is because it's a standard for distribution. Shops shelves are designed to handle that. Because of transportation, I'd like to see a smaller than 8.5x11. Another size, though less common, is a 6x9. Making it easier to put in whatever box/carrier a player uses. Lately, I've been lugging around Shadow War instead of ADT because it fits in my carrier (A plastic Ammo Box).
2. Durability. Rulebooks are a resource guide and an instruction manual. A Textbook, if you will. Because of that, it needs to be able to handle abuse and constant page flipping. Not because it needs it, but because it might need it. That standard is what's call a Perfect Bind. That's the paperback we all have. While cost effective and pretty, it's not the ideal bind for constant wear.
I know that some people are going to jump in here and say that they don't abuse their books and that they have books from the 50's that look as good now as they did back then. That's not the point.
For wear and tear, the most important part of the book is the cover. That's its primary purpose. It needs to be able to take some punishment or what those people from the paragraph above call 'shelf wear'. A hard back or case bound book is made for that wear and tear.
3. Economics and value. Standards cost less. It's that simple. If you want quality, you pay for quality. I've recently decided to reinvest in myself and am going back to college in pursuit of a higher degree. I took a trip to their bookstore. Have you bought college class books before? Thankfully I'm not taking a MIS course. I saw a case bound book for $200. I got off cheap with a flimsy perfect bound book for $38. Interestingly, they say that the cheap book is one you should keep with you for your entire presumed 4 year stay in college. That seems a bit backwards.
So what would be my 'ideal' wargame book? It would be case bound and it would be smaller.
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If I were to put together a wish list to redesign RPG Books and Wargame Books, I'd think of how it's used and go from there. Form follows function. Do I put it on a shelf and look fondly at it? Do I cram it in my carrier and lug it around with me? Do I flip through the pages hurriedly looking for one sentence?
There's three things that come to mind: Transportation, Durability, and Economics.
1. Transportation. Rez is nice because we don't have to lug entire armies back and forth. But you do have to lug some mini's around.
The entire reason 8.5x11 is standard is because it's a standard for distribution. Shops shelves are designed to handle that. Because of transportation, I'd like to see a smaller than 8.5x11. Another size, though less common, is a 6x9. Making it easier to put in whatever box/carrier a player uses. Lately, I've been lugging around Shadow War instead of ADT because it fits in my carrier (A plastic Ammo Box).
2. Durability. Rulebooks are a resource guide and an instruction manual. A Textbook, if you will. Because of that, it needs to be able to handle abuse and constant page flipping. Not because it needs it, but because it might need it. That standard is what's call a Perfect Bind. That's the paperback we all have. While cost effective and pretty, it's not the ideal bind for constant wear.
I know that some people are going to jump in here and say that they don't abuse their books and that they have books from the 50's that look as good now as they did back then. That's not the point.
For wear and tear, the most important part of the book is the cover. That's its primary purpose. It needs to be able to take some punishment or what those people from the paragraph above call 'shelf wear'. A hard back or case bound book is made for that wear and tear.
3. Economics and value. Standards cost less. It's that simple. If you want quality, you pay for quality. I've recently decided to reinvest in myself and am going back to college in pursuit of a higher degree. I took a trip to their bookstore. Have you bought college class books before? Thankfully I'm not taking a MIS course. I saw a case bound book for $200. I got off cheap with a flimsy perfect bound book for $38. Interestingly, they say that the cheap book is one you should keep with you for your entire presumed 4 year stay in college. That seems a bit backwards.
So what would be my 'ideal' wargame book? It would be case bound and it would be smaller.
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I'm with you Chris!!
SW Rule book is fantastic as a players guide. I wish it was avilable outside the SWbox set!
I normally prefer to buy hardcover books for my favorite game systems. I also like to have small, easily referenced rule books.
If you're going with standard size books, I would probably only buy a compilation book. If you had a smaller, easily referenced rule book I'd buy it in whatever form.
Voted compilation book for what its worth.
If you're going with standard size books, I would probably only buy a compilation book. If you had a smaller, easily referenced rule book I'd buy it in whatever form.
Voted compilation book for what its worth.
Well Bound Hardbacks all the way, my ADT Rulebook is falling apart!
Viva La Rezolution!
Viva La Rezolution!
For me, I'd like to see the core rulebook as hard cover.
Its the one that is gonna take the most punishment after all.
Faction books and other supplements are okay as soft cover.
Just my two pence.
Its the one that is gonna take the most punishment after all.
Faction books and other supplements are okay as soft cover.
Just my two pence.
I voted Maybe. While I like HB books, I dont not-like Soft cover.
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